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Old April 18, 2010, 03:49 PM   #27
AK103K
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I know what you mean about the printing thing, but isnt as bad as you might think. You do need to wear a full cut shirt with it though, or at least I do. Tapered shirts with either probably isnt a great idea.

The thing I dislike the most about the 511 is the way the gun moves around in the pocket. I never had one come completely out, but close. I find that movement to be very distracting and makes me a lot more self conscious about the gun. With the Kramer, nothing really moves or flops around, and its a lot more secure overall. Its sort of a trade off between better security and possibly printing, or the constant movement and wanting to settle or secure the gun all the time and the ''printing" or "pointing" effect generated in that respect.

Your best bet, if you can afford to do it, is buy one of each and see what works best for you. We're all different, and have different lifestyles, and what works well for one, may not work as well for another.
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