Don't get me wrong Thad, I love the ground stuff (not to toot my horn, but I've had the pleasure of training with Royce, Rickson, Cleber Luciano, Fabiano Iha, Yuri Nakamura, Erik Paulson and others, its called being spoiled in California.) My point was that even grapplers can get their butts kicked. Sometimes its luck, sometimes its skill. Combat is a funny thing at times when Mr Murphy gets invovled.IMHO
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