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Pigshooter · May 14, 2002, 10:04 AM

Lee shows dies for 38 New Police, 38 short colt and 38 long colt. If you are going to order dies from them, it would be worth it to see if they come with the standard load data sheet that their dies usually contain. They tend to be pretty up-front and prompt about these inquiries.

Did anyone on loadyourown.com know?

For the 38 New Police, Vihta shows a max of 3.5gr N340 ynder a 146gr LRN, OAL 1.181, but this is a whole different bullet (also called the 38S&W). I include it so you can compare to be sure that is not what he has.

Here is a discussion of the short colt loading, take it with a grain of salt:

http://talk.shooters.com/room_34/772.cfm

And this site raises a question about what the diameter really should be, before you start getting components together:

http://www2.whidbey.com/deadeye/38&357.htm

I would definitely slug the chambers and the barrel. Starline brass for 38LC I think is just 38spl brass that is shortened, but I have read where it needs a taper in some chambers, as does the 38SC.

Here is another discussion that deals with the two, but they are talking about using 9mm and 38SA data, sounds fishy to me:

http://talk.shooters.com/room_34/Mar032002.cfm

Wassup man? Sniff any nitro fumes lately? I'll shoot you an email later.

May 14, 2002, 10:04 AM	#3
Pigshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2001 Location: Euless, TX Posts: 334	Lee shows dies for 38 New Police, 38 short colt and 38 long colt. If you are going to order dies from them, it would be worth it to see if they come with the standard load data sheet that their dies usually contain. They tend to be pretty up-front and prompt about these inquiries. Did anyone on loadyourown.com know? For the 38 New Police, Vihta shows a max of 3.5gr N340 ynder a 146gr LRN, OAL 1.181, but this is a whole different bullet (also called the 38S&W). I include it so you can compare to be sure that is not what he has. Here is a discussion of the short colt loading, take it with a grain of salt: http://talk.shooters.com/room_34/772.cfm And this site raises a question about what the diameter really should be, before you start getting components together: http://www2.whidbey.com/deadeye/38&357.htm I would definitely slug the chambers and the barrel. Starline brass for 38LC I think is just 38spl brass that is shortened, but I have read where it needs a taper in some chambers, as does the 38SC. Here is another discussion that deals with the two, but they are talking about using 9mm and 38SA data, sounds fishy to me: http://talk.shooters.com/room_34/Mar032002.cfm Wassup man? Sniff any nitro fumes lately? I'll shoot you an email later.