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Old November 30, 2009, 10:29 AM   #26
MTT TL
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any non LE or military situation where more than 5 rounds was required for self defense
The Tyler Court House shooting comes to mind. That started as a SD situation that turned into a LE shooting with more than 200 rounds fired between civilians, LEOs and the actor. So I would posit that any shooting with an armored target would likely require more than five rounds, as head shots are difficult under duress and may not be apparent as necessary until after the target has been hit ineffectually.

Another aspect is that most HD/SD shootings are covered so poorly it is often difficult to tell if the defender needed more ammo to continue fighting. For example in the Vernon Forrest robbery/ murder the gunmen exchanged shots with VF, but the number of shots, and the status of magazines are unknown at the completion of the gun fight. Still I would posit that any fight with more than one actor will require more than five rounds to end the threat. Whether or not you survive long enough to shoot more than five rounds is another question all together.
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