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Old March 22, 2009, 02:52 PM   #66
Glenn E. Meyer
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So the military can blow you up in a purely economically motivated crime but cannot arrest you?

Is that what this is all about? As far as ample time, we've seen the appropriate authorities taking too long to act or decide.

Can the President order an action that seemingly violates the law and order the shoot down?

Not to thread hijack but this debate is similar to one theory of moral actions. In one case, the most moral action is absolutism to the law - even if it becomes a suicide pack or leads to death of innocents. Another is that a moral action is to follow the values of your own conscience if it promotes the greater good or moral cause.

I proposed the resolution for some is that if some situation like postulated, if some law breaking member of the military tries to aid you, refuse the help and perish in the flames.

If the immediate action is to prevent harm, as compared to a conspiracist expansion of military power, then I'm not fretting.

Of course, let's bring up the Katrina example.

Look at it two ways, depending on your personality structure:

1. Was it a stupid, misguided and illegal action postulated on a mistaken belief it would aid in saving lives?

2. Was it a planned conspiracy on the slippery slope to gun confiscation?

Since it was probably #1 - it was corrected in the courts, IIRC.

So, if in a seeming emergency, some military unit tries to save lives (did they here?) - our normal processes are really self correcting. If it is a conspiracy the law means nothing anyway when the black heliocopters come for you.
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