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I just went through a 2 day shotgun class with an 870 and had no shoulder problems. We shot around 300 rds of 00 buck + 50 rds of maximum Hi-shok slug. Form is everything, in addition to stock fit and NOT using 3" cartridges. The scattergun tech 870s in the class were nice looking guns but did'nt pattern as well as my Vang (no ports).
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