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i've cut the fingers off the red wads before and seems like i remember picking some of them up after shooting and my recollection is that they looked like they had rolled over or something when fired because they were distorted like something had gone wrong while in the bore...anyway at 25 yards there was no such thing as a pattern with them.....i just crimped as is with nothing on top of pellets and crimps looked ok....shooting was done in cyl bore.....As always when i load something i load a bunch of them and they came in handy after hurricane Fran...i had a bunch of big limbs and tops of trees cracked over that needed to come down....that's when the Remington 1100 tree pruner was put to the test....My homemade buckshot and full choke did the trick......Dick
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