I use a .270 on them here in California. I have shot them up to 200 pounds using 130 gr Core-Lokt Reminton Stock ammo. Bullet placement is everything. I hit one that ran for 100 yds. When I caught up to it, all it's innards were gone except for the heart and part of one lung. My quickest kills are neck/head shots. I don't often get to shoot them standing still, usually they are moving...
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