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VAPA · May 24, 2010, 12:26 PM

Thanks Mike. Perhaps your comments will be better if and when you watch the video.

As for the Courts defining what they mean by "brief" - in fact they have clarified. They have stated that they have found that detentions which have last 3-5 minutes longer than what was reasonable have been found to be Fourth Amendment violations.

You can try to justify bad behavior if you wish and you can appeal to the flexibility of words in that attempt but...it's pretty common sense that 30+ minutes of detention is not a brief attempt to determine immigration status of a guy who is clearly American, who is very compliant, and who has two forms of ID and two passports on the window.

I suggest you watch the video so as not to be accused of justifying the actions of some very bad government actions...

May 24, 2010, 12:26 PM	#40
VAPA Member Join Date: May 21, 2010 Posts: 63	Thanks Mike. Perhaps your comments will be better if and when you watch the video. As for the Courts defining what they mean by "brief" - in fact they have clarified. They have stated that they have found that detentions which have last 3-5 minutes longer than what was reasonable have been found to be Fourth Amendment violations. You can try to justify bad behavior if you wish and you can appeal to the flexibility of words in that attempt but...it's pretty common sense that 30+ minutes of detention is not a brief attempt to determine immigration status of a guy who is clearly American, who is very compliant, and who has two forms of ID and two passports on the window. I suggest you watch the video so as not to be accused of justifying the actions of some very bad government actions...