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anygunwilldo · March 8, 2005, 05:11 PM

This ammo is British SMG 9mm NATO if it is what I think you are describing. It is FMJ loaded VERY, VERY hot (think +p+p+p+), and is for use only in Sub machine guns and their semi auto variants. It will actually blow the slide off a handgun(or worse). Here is a memo the BATF released after a series of accidents from people trying to shot it in handguns:

Hirtenberger AG WARNING: Austrian ammunition maker Hirtenberger AG has put the word out concerning a quantity of its 9x19 mm ammunition that is "unique for use in any handgun." According to a November 7, 2003 BATF Industry News release. "This ammunition was loaded to produce pressures far in excess of that intended for use in handguns. This ammunition should not be fired in any weapon other than what it was designed for." The ammunition was produced for the British Ministry of Defense from 1990 through 1992 for use in the L7A1 "under adverse conditions" and carries the "L7A1" designation, as well as submachine guns or the semi automatic versions of such weapons. The ammunition covered by this warning can be identified by the following head stamps: 12 o’clock position: "HP" 3 o’clock position: "90, 91, or 92" 6 o’clock position: "L7A1" 9 o’clock position: "a cross within a circle (NATO cross Å). (Information from the International Ammunition Association, Inc.)

The ballistics are an amazing 1412 FPS and 475 ft-lbs! IT is FMJ, BTW, if we are talking about the same stuff.

If you have a UZI, Heckler and Koch MP5, Sten, Colt, Cobray, Tec-9, Mac/Ingram/MPA/Vulcan, and any other 9mm SMG or SEMI AUTO Version of one, this is the stuff it was built for!

March 8, 2005, 05:11 PM	#10
anygunwilldo Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 8	This ammo is British SMG 9mm NATO... This ammo is British SMG 9mm NATO if it is what I think you are describing. It is FMJ loaded VERY, VERY hot (think +p+p+p+), and is for use only in Sub machine guns and their semi auto variants. It will actually blow the slide off a handgun(or worse). Here is a memo the BATF released after a series of accidents from people trying to shot it in handguns: Hirtenberger AG WARNING: Austrian ammunition maker Hirtenberger AG has put the word out concerning a quantity of its 9x19 mm ammunition that is "unique for use in any handgun." According to a November 7, 2003 BATF Industry News release. "This ammunition was loaded to produce pressures far in excess of that intended for use in handguns. This ammunition should not be fired in any weapon other than what it was designed for." The ammunition was produced for the British Ministry of Defense from 1990 through 1992 for use in the L7A1 "under adverse conditions" and carries the "L7A1" designation, as well as submachine guns or the semi automatic versions of such weapons. The ammunition covered by this warning can be identified by the following head stamps: 12 o’clock position: "HP" 3 o’clock position: "90, 91, or 92" 6 o’clock position: "L7A1" 9 o’clock position: "a cross within a circle (NATO cross Å). (Information from the International Ammunition Association, Inc.) The ballistics are an amazing 1412 FPS and 475 ft-lbs! IT is FMJ, BTW, if we are talking about the same stuff. If you have a UZI, Heckler and Koch MP5, Sten, Colt, Cobray, Tec-9, Mac/Ingram/MPA/Vulcan, and any other 9mm SMG or SEMI AUTO Version of one, this is the stuff it was built for!