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Bart B. · October 10, 2012, 10:29 PM

Kraig, if the rifle and ammo shoots 2 MOA at its best, there's no way it can shoot any more accurate. A 2 MOA rifle and ammo fired by someone who can hold 1 MOA will end up with a 3 MOA group on the target. Shooter errors and variables add to what the rifle and ammo do, they don't subtract from it.

If a 2 MOA rifle and ammo is held such that it shoots the same, it won't get any better; whatever's holding it has no error or variables in doing so. Everything's the same for each shot.

I understand what you're trying to get across, but it doesn't work that way. Ones holding and shooting techniques won't make a rifle and its ammo shoot any better than it does. If you have a 2 MOA rifle, and constantly shoot 2 MOA with that rifle, you're holding and shooting a zero MOA area on the target with your sights; just like an accuracy cradle or machine rest or rail gun.

On the other hand, if you've got a 1 MOA rifle and ammo but shoot 2 MOA with it, improving your technique may enable you to shoot 1-1/2 MOA if you can hold and get shots off inside 1/2 MOA. And superhumans with a 1/8 MOA hold and let off area will shoot 1-1/8 MOA groups on the target with that 1 MOA rifle and ammo.

October 10, 2012, 10:29 PM	#12
Bart B. Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 8,927	Kraig, if the rifle and ammo shoots 2 MOA at its best, there's no way it can shoot any more accurate. A 2 MOA rifle and ammo fired by someone who can hold 1 MOA will end up with a 3 MOA group on the target. Shooter errors and variables add to what the rifle and ammo do, they don't subtract from it. If a 2 MOA rifle and ammo is held such that it shoots the same, it won't get any better; whatever's holding it has no error or variables in doing so. Everything's the same for each shot. I understand what you're trying to get across, but it doesn't work that way. Ones holding and shooting techniques won't make a rifle and its ammo shoot any better than it does. If you have a 2 MOA rifle, and constantly shoot 2 MOA with that rifle, you're holding and shooting a zero MOA area on the target with your sights; just like an accuracy cradle or machine rest or rail gun. On the other hand, if you've got a 1 MOA rifle and ammo but shoot 2 MOA with it, improving your technique may enable you to shoot 1-1/2 MOA if you can hold and get shots off inside 1/2 MOA. And superhumans with a 1/8 MOA hold and let off area will shoot 1-1/8 MOA groups on the target with that 1 MOA rifle and ammo. Last edited by Bart B.; October 10, 2012 at 10:40 PM.