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Clark · August 19, 2000, 01:14 AM

DESTRUCTIVE LOAD PRESSURE DATA!!!

THESE LOADS EXCEED SAAMI SPECS. THEY ARE INTENDED TO RESULT IN
CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE FIREARM AND/OR THE RELOADED COMPONENTS AS
A MEANS TOWARD COMPILING LOAD PRESSURE DATA. [/B]

LIL'GUN got wimpy at high compression

Power Pistol is the loudest

1) 90 gr 9mm JHP Gold Dot 1.114" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and
the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill.

Bullseye book load 95 gr FMJ 5.5 gr 1295 fps 31k psi
I did 7.8 gr 1706 fps 51k psi

Power Pistol book load 95 gr JHP 7.8 gr 1.055" 1455 FPS 33k psi
I did 10.7 gr. 1863 fps 51k psi

3N37 book load 7.3 gr 1518 fps 33k cip
I did 9.4 gr. 1850 fps 51k cip

AA#5 book load 7.5 gr 1.095" 1374 fps 33k cup
I did 9.4 gr. 1637 fps 48k cup

2) 115 gr 9mm Win JHP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and
the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill.

Bullseye book load 5 gr 1180 fps 31k psi
I did 7.0 1517 fps 51k psi

Power Pistol book load 6.7 gr 1.12" 1280 fps 34l psi
I did 8.9 gr. 1572 fps 51k psi

3N37 book load 6.9 gr 1.124" 1322 fps 33k cip
I did 9.2 gr. 1633 fps 51k cip

AA#5 book load 7 gr 1.095" 1192 fps 33k cup
I did 9.7 gr 1494 fps 48k cup

3) 130 gr JHP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the free
bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill.

LIL'GUN book load [38 Super] 12.8 gr 135 gr 1.265" 1357 fps 32k cup
I did 13.8 gr. 1538 fps 44k cup

4) 147 gr Hornady XTP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the
free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill.

Bullseye book load 4.2 gr 1.14" 33k psi 1010 fps
I did 5.6 gr 1252 fps 51k psi

Unique book load 4.4 gr 1.14" 1010 fps 33k psi
I did 5.9 gr 1258 fps 51k psi

Power Pistol book load 6.2 gr 1.14" 1095 fps 34k psi
I did 7.4 gr. 1326 fps 51k psi

Blue Dot book load 6.2 gr 1.14" 1050 fps 30k psi
I did 8.7 gr. 1360 fps 51k psi

2400 book load [38 Super]10.9 gr 1.28" 1215 fps 34k psi
I did 12 gr. 1401 fps 51k psi

800X book load 5.3 gr 1.13" 1025 fps 33k cup
I did 6.9 gr. 1234 fps 47k cup

AA#5 book load 5.3 gr 1.095" 991 fps 31k cup
I did 7.7 gr 1270 fps 48k cup

LIL GUN book load 12.8 gr 1.265 35k cup
I did 13.8 1357 fps 51k cup

5) .380 Berretta 1934 OAL=.962"
Power Pistol book load 4.8 gr 90 gr XTP .960" 1105 fps 21.5k psi
I did 6.8 gr 90 gr JHP Gold Dot 1473 fps 39.4k psi
[at 5 gr .0015" bulge, at 6.8 gr .003" of case bulge]

Problems?
The H110 and AA#9 would not compress and bent the bullet and fattened
the bullet from .355" to .360" this wastes allot of 147 gr XTP bullets.
The LIL GUN got wimpy at high compression
The Berretta bit me me on the web of my right hand.
The little 1934 is much more accurate than the P11.
Power Pistol is easily the loudest.

[This message has been edited by Clark (edited August 22, 2000).]

August 19, 2000, 01:14 AM	#12
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	DESTRUCTIVE LOAD PRESSURE DATA!!! THESE LOADS EXCEED SAAMI SPECS. THEY ARE INTENDED TO RESULT IN CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE FIREARM AND/OR THE RELOADED COMPONENTS AS A MEANS TOWARD COMPILING LOAD PRESSURE DATA. [/B] LIL'GUN got wimpy at high compression Power Pistol is the loudest 1) 90 gr 9mm JHP Gold Dot 1.114" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill. Bullseye book load 95 gr FMJ 5.5 gr 1295 fps 31k psi I did 7.8 gr 1706 fps 51k psi Power Pistol book load 95 gr JHP 7.8 gr 1.055" 1455 FPS 33k psi I did 10.7 gr. 1863 fps 51k psi 3N37 book load 7.3 gr 1518 fps 33k cip I did 9.4 gr. 1850 fps 51k cip AA#5 book load 7.5 gr 1.095" 1374 fps 33k cup I did 9.4 gr. 1637 fps 48k cup 2) 115 gr 9mm Win JHP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill. Bullseye book load 5 gr 1180 fps 31k psi I did 7.0 1517 fps 51k psi Power Pistol book load 6.7 gr 1.12" 1280 fps 34l psi I did 8.9 gr. 1572 fps 51k psi 3N37 book load 6.9 gr 1.124" 1322 fps 33k cip I did 9.2 gr. 1633 fps 51k cip AA#5 book load 7 gr 1.095" 1192 fps 33k cup I did 9.7 gr 1494 fps 48k cup 3) 130 gr JHP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill. LIL'GUN book load [38 Super] 12.8 gr 135 gr 1.265" 1357 fps 32k cup I did 13.8 gr. 1538 fps 44k cup 4) 147 gr Hornady XTP 1.169" Kel-Tek P11 with P40 recoil springs and the free bore beyond the chamber extended with a 23/64" drill. Bullseye book load 4.2 gr 1.14" 33k psi 1010 fps I did 5.6 gr 1252 fps 51k psi Unique book load 4.4 gr 1.14" 1010 fps 33k psi I did 5.9 gr 1258 fps 51k psi Power Pistol book load 6.2 gr 1.14" 1095 fps 34k psi I did 7.4 gr. 1326 fps 51k psi Blue Dot book load 6.2 gr 1.14" 1050 fps 30k psi I did 8.7 gr. 1360 fps 51k psi 2400 book load [38 Super]10.9 gr 1.28" 1215 fps 34k psi I did 12 gr. 1401 fps 51k psi 800X book load 5.3 gr 1.13" 1025 fps 33k cup I did 6.9 gr. 1234 fps 47k cup AA#5 book load 5.3 gr 1.095" 991 fps 31k cup I did 7.7 gr 1270 fps 48k cup LIL GUN book load 12.8 gr 1.265 35k cup I did 13.8 1357 fps 51k cup 5) .380 Berretta 1934 OAL=.962" Power Pistol book load 4.8 gr 90 gr XTP .960" 1105 fps 21.5k psi I did 6.8 gr 90 gr JHP Gold Dot 1473 fps 39.4k psi [at 5 gr .0015" bulge, at 6.8 gr .003" of case bulge] Problems? The H110 and AA#9 would not compress and bent the bullet and fattened the bullet from .355" to .360" this wastes allot of 147 gr XTP bullets. The LIL GUN got wimpy at high compression The Berretta bit me me on the web of my right hand. The little 1934 is much more accurate than the P11. Power Pistol is easily the loudest. [This message has been edited by Clark (edited August 22, 2000).]