My wife insisted on getting a cheap little break barrel shotgun to grouse hunt with it and I agreed thinking a 20 gauge would b plenty and a .410 would have even been better, she is on the stubborn side and insisted on a 12 gauge, she bought an H&R topper model 098 with modified barrel 3" chamber, Its really light weight and no recoild pad, just a hard piece of plastic type stuff, I put a 3" turkey load through it and that was plenty for me! I doubt she will get much use out of it!