The Firing Line Forums - View Single Post - are there any sensible gun regulations you would support?

Brian Pfleuger · December 23, 2012, 07:57 PM

It is disheartening that folks continue to concentrate on the tool.

The facts, divorced from emotion, prove irrefutably that the tool of choice is irrelevant.

These attacks happen all over the world and have been happening for all of recorded history.

Even in the modern world, a great many of these attacks are carried out with edged weapons and routinely kill as many or more than those attacks which use firearms.

In many parts of the world, there is near unrestricted, unlimited, cheap, easy access to fully-automatic weapons... and the attackers use explosives.

Timothy McVeigh used explosives and killed 18 daycare children, among others. The worst school attack in American history was done with explosives, and killed 38 children and 20 adults.

Believing that you can stop a lunatic who is bent on killing by forcing him to pick a different tool, is naive beyond comprehension. Totally divorced from the reality around us.

The ONLY relevance that firearms have to the discussion is their use to DEFEND ourselves from these potential lunatics. There is no other tool that can be effectively carried or utilized that could be accessible to a normal person during their daily lives. NONE.

The question of stopping the lunatics is a pure, unadulterated STRAW MAN argument. It's impossible. They can't be stopped. The end.

Pick a different goal.

December 23, 2012, 07:57 PM	#164
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	It is disheartening that folks continue to concentrate on the tool. The facts, divorced from emotion, prove irrefutably that the tool of choice is irrelevant. These attacks happen all over the world and have been happening for all of recorded history. Even in the modern world, a great many of these attacks are carried out with edged weapons and routinely kill as many or more than those attacks which use firearms. In many parts of the world, there is near unrestricted, unlimited, cheap, easy access to fully-automatic weapons... and the attackers use explosives. Timothy McVeigh used explosives and killed 18 daycare children, among others. The worst school attack in American history was done with explosives, and killed 38 children and 20 adults. Believing that you can stop a lunatic who is bent on killing by forcing him to pick a different tool, is naive beyond comprehension. Totally divorced from the reality around us. The ONLY relevance that firearms have to the discussion is their use to DEFEND ourselves from these potential lunatics. There is no other tool that can be effectively carried or utilized that could be accessible to a normal person during their daily lives. NONE. The question of stopping the lunatics is a pure, unadulterated STRAW MAN argument. It's impossible. They can't be stopped. The end. Pick a different goal. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley Last edited by Brian Pfleuger; December 23, 2012 at 08:02 PM.