Mr
I will assume you mean "CLAYS - Clays"
(as opposed to Clays Universal-
I personally always found the naming of Hodgdon's powders confusion)
I use 4.1 of Clays Clays under a 200 LSWC in a "stock Kimber full size 45
Have gone up to 4.4 with Clays.
I perfer the liter loads which handle easily and function the Kimber flawlessly.
Clays IS quite clean.
I have never chrono'ed them.
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