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Old September 1, 2008, 10:13 AM   #31
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Dr. Watson,
Nope, Level IV which is now as light as III was then, some is lighter. Besides, you said your Mosin Nagant would do the job with ball ammo through Class III (Level III) and that isn't the case.
Thank you Mr. Holmes;-) But, it appears from the test posted above, the
.223 and 7.62 x 39 blow through IIIA. I suspect 182 grain ball, at 2600 fps would do the job. Also, a box of armour piercing would do for any body armour.
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What pistol rounds are going to pierce Level III or IV body armor at 50, 100, or 125 yards? Inquiring minds want to know.
Pistol rounds likely to do the job would not be PC. .475 Linebaugh, heavy 454, using monometal bullets.http://www.handloads.com/misc/lineba...tion.tests.asp



Notice Keith bullets, do well. Heavy hard cast. Punch bullets
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16.htm
are monometal, with a lead core added, since the government
classifys solid hard monometal bullets, like Barnes solids, as armour piercing, and, generally illegal.

I see no reason police aren't allowed to carry M1A's in the car, with armour piercing ammo. Milsurp should do the trick. At 300 yards, I had one go through the thick part of a manhole cover, and, stick nearly it's full length out the back of the manhole cover.

It's a lot easier to give police guns that give them a chance against Mexican gangbangers, then try and stop the gangbangers from getting the guns...

Also, the CZ 52 used a .30 caliber or so bullet, that went real fast, and, easily defeated most body armour. 7.62 Tokarev bottle-necked cartridge


Another good test of vests and bullets:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot29_3.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot24.htm
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