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H&H,hunter · March 19, 2006, 09:45 PM

The .45-70 is not legal for use as a dangerous game rifle in Tanzania.

Garret loads:

GARRETT'S 45-70 HAMMERHEAD AMMO
$55 / 20 CTGS

420-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST GAS-CHECKED HAMMERHEAD AT 1850-FPS

THIS 45-70 AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, BROWNING, RUGER, MARLIN, NEF, AND SHILOH SHARPS RIFLES.

ENERGY: 3200 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 51; MEPLAT: .330"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .287; TRAJECTORY: +3" @ 100-YDS; ZERO @ 150-YDS; -7" @ 200-YDS

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GARRETT'S 45-70 HAMMERHEAD AMMO
$55 / 20 CTGS

540-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST GAS-CHECKED HAMMERHEAD AT 1550-FPS

THIS 45-70 AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN MARLIN RIFLES WITH BALLARD BARRELS.

ENERGY: 2880 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 55; MEPLAT: .360"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .368; TRAJECTORY: +1.5" @ 50-YDS; ZERO @ 100-YDS; -6.5" @ 150-YDS
Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Ammo

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GARRETT'S 45-70 SUPERJACK AMMO
$65 / 20 CTGS

350-GR WOODLEIGH WELD-CORE JSP AT 2000-FPS

FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, MARLIN, KODIAK DOUBLE, BROWNING, RUGER, SHILOH SHARPS, C.SHARPS, ENCORE, & NEF RIFLES.

ENERGY: 3100 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 46; MEPLAT:.330">; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; Sectional Density: .238 TRAJECTORY:+2.1" @ 50-YDS; +3.3" @ 100-yds; ZERO @ 170-YDS, -8.3"" @ 230-YDS
Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Superjack Ammo

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GARRETT'S 45-70 SUPERJACK AMMO
$65 / 20 CTGS

500-GR WOODLEIGH WELD-CORE JSP AT 1600-FPS
FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, MARLIN, KODIAK DOUBLE, BROWNING, RUGER, SHILOH SHARPS, C.SHARPS, ENCORE, & NEF RIFLES.

ENERGY: 2843 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 52; MEPLAT: .330"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; Sectional Density: .341 TRAJECTORY: 2.8" @ 50-YDS; +3.3" @ 100-yds; ZERO @ 145-YDS, -9.6"" @ 200-YDS
Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Superjack Ammo

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GARRETT'S 45-70 EXITER AMMO
$180 / 20 CTGS

500-GRAIN SPEER TUNGSTEN SOLID AT 1530-FPS

FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, BROWNING, AND MARLIN REPEATING RIFLES.
ENERGY: 2600 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 50; MEPLAT: .235"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SMALL-PRIMER; CCI 41 MILITARY-SPEC PRIMER; CUSTOM SMALL PRIMER POCKETED NICKEL-PLATED STARLINE BRASS; TRAJECTORY: +1.5" @ 50-YDS, ZERO @ 100-YDS, -6" @ 150-YDS

Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Exiter Ammo

And from the Tanzanian Embassy:

From the embassy of Tanzania:

"Hunting Regulations and Importation of Firearms and Ammunition
Hunters are expected to bring their own firearms and ammunitions. The minimum calibre permitted for big game (Buffalo, Elephant, Lion) is 375 magnum, with a bullet weight not less than 270 grains and 3850 foot point muzzle velocity. Without such a gun, you will not be issued with a license for hunting big game! You should also bring a medium range rifle, such as 308 Winchester, 7x64, 7mm, Remington Magnum 30.06, 8x68, 338, 9, 3x64 etc. for plains game (Antelope). In order for your host Hunting Company to arrange the licensing of your guns, you are expected to send the following details of your guns when booking with them for their professional help:"

As you can clearly see the .45-70 does not make the Minimum FPE requiremnt for DG hunting in Tanzania.

I've known people who've hunted buffalo with their .338's in Tanzania. Game scouts will let you hunt with just about anyhting once you get there. They should not be considered a source of legal refrence.

Jeff Cooper prefers a .460G&A for dangerous game if I am correct. The .460G&A is bit more rifle than a .458Lott. The .45-70 should not be considered to be an adequate DG rifle asit does not make the minimum power requirement as per the regulations in most south African countries.

I believe that you can use any darn rifle you want on a private high fenced game reserve in South Africa such as the one Donnie (Rich's PH) operates.

Greg

March 19, 2006, 09:45 PM	#11
H&H,hunter Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 504	The .45-70 is not legal for use as a dangerous game rifle in Tanzania. Garret loads: GARRETT'S 45-70 HAMMERHEAD AMMO $55 / 20 CTGS 420-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST GAS-CHECKED HAMMERHEAD AT 1850-FPS THIS 45-70 AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, BROWNING, RUGER, MARLIN, NEF, AND SHILOH SHARPS RIFLES. ENERGY: 3200 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 51; MEPLAT: .330"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .287; TRAJECTORY: +3" @ 100-YDS; ZERO @ 150-YDS; -7" @ 200-YDS Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Ammo Click here to enlarge photo GARRETT'S 45-70 HAMMERHEAD AMMO $55 / 20 CTGS 540-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST GAS-CHECKED HAMMERHEAD AT 1550-FPS THIS 45-70 AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN MARLIN RIFLES WITH BALLARD BARRELS. ENERGY: 2880 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 55; MEPLAT: .360"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .368; TRAJECTORY: +1.5" @ 50-YDS; ZERO @ 100-YDS; -6.5" @ 150-YDS Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Ammo Click here to enlarge photo GARRETT'S 45-70 SUPERJACK AMMO $65 / 20 CTGS 350-GR WOODLEIGH WELD-CORE JSP AT 2000-FPS FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, MARLIN, KODIAK DOUBLE, BROWNING, RUGER, SHILOH SHARPS, C.SHARPS, ENCORE, & NEF RIFLES. ENERGY: 3100 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 46; MEPLAT:.330">; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; Sectional Density: .238 TRAJECTORY:+2.1" @ 50-YDS; +3.3" @ 100-yds; ZERO @ 170-YDS, -8.3"" @ 230-YDS Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Superjack Ammo Click here to enlarge photo GARRETT'S 45-70 SUPERJACK AMMO $65 / 20 CTGS 500-GR WOODLEIGH WELD-CORE JSP AT 1600-FPS FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, MARLIN, KODIAK DOUBLE, BROWNING, RUGER, SHILOH SHARPS, C.SHARPS, ENCORE, & NEF RIFLES. ENERGY: 2843 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 52; MEPLAT: .330"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; Sectional Density: .341 TRAJECTORY: 2.8" @ 50-YDS; +3.3" @ 100-yds; ZERO @ 145-YDS, -9.6"" @ 200-YDS Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Superjack Ammo Click here to enlarge photo GARRETT'S 45-70 EXITER AMMO $180 / 20 CTGS 500-GRAIN SPEER TUNGSTEN SOLID AT 1530-FPS FOR USE ONLY IN MODERN WINCHESTER, BROWNING, AND MARLIN REPEATING RIFLES. ENERGY: 2600 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 50; MEPLAT: .235"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 35,000-CUP; SMALL-PRIMER; CCI 41 MILITARY-SPEC PRIMER; CUSTOM SMALL PRIMER POCKETED NICKEL-PLATED STARLINE BRASS; TRAJECTORY: +1.5" @ 50-YDS, ZERO @ 100-YDS, -6" @ 150-YDS Click Here to read more about the 45-70 Exiter Ammo And from the Tanzanian Embassy: From the embassy of Tanzania: "Hunting Regulations and Importation of Firearms and Ammunition Hunters are expected to bring their own firearms and ammunitions. The minimum calibre permitted for big game (Buffalo, Elephant, Lion) is 375 magnum, with a bullet weight not less than 270 grains and 3850 foot point muzzle velocity. Without such a gun, you will not be issued with a license for hunting big game! You should also bring a medium range rifle, such as 308 Winchester, 7x64, 7mm, Remington Magnum 30.06, 8x68, 338, 9, 3x64 etc. for plains game (Antelope). In order for your host Hunting Company to arrange the licensing of your guns, you are expected to send the following details of your guns when booking with them for their professional help:" As you can clearly see the .45-70 does not make the Minimum FPE requiremnt for DG hunting in Tanzania. I've known people who've hunted buffalo with their .338's in Tanzania. Game scouts will let you hunt with just about anyhting once you get there. They should not be considered a source of legal refrence. Jeff Cooper prefers a .460G&A for dangerous game if I am correct. The .460G&A is bit more rifle than a .458Lott. The .45-70 should not be considered to be an adequate DG rifle asit does not make the minimum power requirement as per the regulations in most south African countries. I believe that you can use any darn rifle you want on a private high fenced game reserve in South Africa such as the one Donnie (Rich's PH) operates. Greg __________________ Velocity is thrilling, But diameter does the real killing.