4.7 gr under a Montana Gold 230gr ball gives 169pf at 735 fps.
5.1 gr under a Montana Gold 200gr JFP gives 167pf at 835 fps.
The 230gr is extremely soft shooting, so much so that I feel the recoil is too sluggish for IPSC, though it cycles fine and is a dream to shoot. The 200 gr cycles briskly, with soft recoil - a fantastic load.
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