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semi_problomatic · November 19, 2013, 10:58 PM

Not mine, but funny:

Step 1: Hold shotgun towards lock at sharp angle
Step 2: lean your face and upper body as far as you can possibly contort yourself away from shotgun
Step 3: squeeze buttcheeks and grimace like a little girl about to get punched in the face as you pull the trigger
Step 4: pick pieces of giant medieval iraqi lock out of your face and repeat as necessary

This:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=607_1211071378

Is not faster than this:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Okdtnl_yq3yQ3g

On breaching hazards:
Shotgun: If the shotgun muzzle is not held tightly against the door, splatter may occur that could affect friendly troops. Also, buckshot and rifled slugs can overpenetrate doors and may kill or wound occupants in the room

Water impulse: Explosive MOE has been perfected to such a degree that the secondary fragmentation from the door and the risk of over-pressure injuries to the hostages have been all but eliminated

http://cqb-team.com/breaching.php

And as far as rounds used/issued:

M1030 breaching SLUG
Mk 275
A001 CTG, 12 GAGE SKEET #9 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A002 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #7 1/2 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A003 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A004 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #8 1/2 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A005 CTG, 12 GAGE SKEET #9 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A006 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A007 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE
A019 CTG, 12 GAGE FLECHETTE
A020 CTG, 12 GAGE #4B BUCKSHOT XM/M257
A023 CTG, 12 GAGE 1 OZ SLUG

All military rounds.

The mossberg 500's we were issued came with pistol grips and regular stocks. After the first qual range, I didn't see a whole lot of pistol grips on shotguns. And we didn't use them for breaching, as I mentioned, prefering the use of water impulse charges. The shotguns mostly stayed on the trucks during missions; ie: donkeys and cars.

#8 and #9 are/can be used as breaching rounds. So can slugs. They're both still issued.

And as far as foolish things....well that was par for the course. My first depoloyment was OIF 1. Our training wasn't exactly stellar for what we encountered...

"is that an IED?"
"I dunno"
*bang bang*....."didn't explode..." *bang bang bang bang*
"guess not.."
*crunch crunch crunch kick*
"OH SH.....!!!!!"
.......
........
........
"guess it wasn't an IED"

So, say again? You can pick up your BS flag where it fell.

I know what you mean shortwave if only all shotguns came with that I might become a shotgun connoisseur

November 19, 2013, 10:58 PM	#32
semi_problomatic Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Location: Ft. Polk Posts: 883	Not mine, but funny: Step 1: Hold shotgun towards lock at sharp angle Step 2: lean your face and upper body as far as you can possibly contort yourself away from shotgun Step 3: squeeze buttcheeks and grimace like a little girl about to get punched in the face as you pull the trigger Step 4: pick pieces of giant medieval iraqi lock out of your face and repeat as necessary This: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=607_1211071378 Is not faster than this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Okdtnl_yq3yQ3g On breaching hazards: Shotgun: If the shotgun muzzle is not held tightly against the door, splatter may occur that could affect friendly troops. Also, buckshot and rifled slugs can overpenetrate doors and may kill or wound occupants in the room Water impulse: Explosive MOE has been perfected to such a degree that the secondary fragmentation from the door and the risk of over-pressure injuries to the hostages have been all but eliminated http://cqb-team.com/breaching.php And as far as rounds used/issued: M1030 breaching SLUG Mk 275 A001 CTG, 12 GAGE SKEET #9 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A002 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #7 1/2 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A003 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A004 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP/SKEET #8 1/2 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A005 CTG, 12 GAGE SKEET #9 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A006 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A007 CTG, 12 GAGE TRAP #8 SHOT PLASTIC CASE A019 CTG, 12 GAGE FLECHETTE A020 CTG, 12 GAGE #4B BUCKSHOT XM/M257 A023 CTG, 12 GAGE 1 OZ SLUG All military rounds. The mossberg 500's we were issued came with pistol grips and regular stocks. After the first qual range, I didn't see a whole lot of pistol grips on shotguns. And we didn't use them for breaching, as I mentioned, prefering the use of water impulse charges. The shotguns mostly stayed on the trucks during missions; ie: donkeys and cars. #8 and #9 are/can be used as breaching rounds. So can slugs. They're both still issued. And as far as foolish things....well that was par for the course. My first depoloyment was OIF 1. Our training wasn't exactly stellar for what we encountered... "is that an IED?" "I dunno" bang bang....."didn't explode..." bang bang bang bang "guess not.." crunch crunch crunch kick "OH SH.....!!!!!" ....... ........ ........ "guess it wasn't an IED" So, say again? You can pick up your BS flag where it fell. I know what you mean shortwave if only all shotguns came with that I might become a shotgun connoisseur __________________ Freedom's just a word. If I'm gonna die for a word, my word is jello... Last edited by semi_problomatic; November 19, 2013 at 11:49 PM.