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MLeake · September 22, 2010, 10:13 PM

... were at a NATO training facility. (G17's). Pistols and magazines were done in bright blue, so they wouldn't be confused with duty weapons.

Sounds like this PD was using Simunitions ammo from duty sidearms. That would definitely be a link in the causal chain.

jimbob86, simunitions are designed for force on force training; they should never have live ammo anywhere near.

Seems to me a USMC recon SSGT was court-martialed and convicted (I think negligent homicide) several years back for something similar; live rounds got loaded into his weapon, and he killed a buddy in a training exercise. I remember reading about it in a Stars and Stripes, I think 2003-2004 timeframe.

(Another case of live ammo being in the loading area where blanks were in use.)

September 22, 2010, 10:13 PM	#6
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Simunitions weapons I've seen... ... were at a NATO training facility. (G17's). Pistols and magazines were done in bright blue, so they wouldn't be confused with duty weapons. Sounds like this PD was using Simunitions ammo from duty sidearms. That would definitely be a link in the causal chain. jimbob86, simunitions are designed for force on force training; they should never have live ammo anywhere near. Seems to me a USMC recon SSGT was court-martialed and convicted (I think negligent homicide) several years back for something similar; live rounds got loaded into his weapon, and he killed a buddy in a training exercise. I remember reading about it in a Stars and Stripes, I think 2003-2004 timeframe. (Another case of live ammo being in the loading area where blanks were in use.)