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MLeake · February 4, 2013, 06:06 PM

John Wayne had admirable traits, but he was 4F in real life, and would have been the first to say he was a hero only because the writers made him one. (In fact, he did say that on at least one occasion.)

Lee Marvin, wounded as a Marine in the island campaigns, was arguably more heroic, but I doubt he was terribly pro-gun. His view on movie violence was that it should be ugly, not sugar-coated, so as to make people think it was something to be avoided.

I don't know that Michael Caine is pro-gun, but he is a Korean War veteran.

Heroic types may not be pro-gun, and pro-gun types are not necessarily heroic.

February 4, 2013, 06:06 PM	#30
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	John Wayne had admirable traits, but he was 4F in real life, and would have been the first to say he was a hero only because the writers made him one. (In fact, he did say that on at least one occasion.) Lee Marvin, wounded as a Marine in the island campaigns, was arguably more heroic, but I doubt he was terribly pro-gun. His view on movie violence was that it should be ugly, not sugar-coated, so as to make people think it was something to be avoided. I don't know that Michael Caine is pro-gun, but he is a Korean War veteran. Heroic types may not be pro-gun, and pro-gun types are not necessarily heroic. Last edited by MLeake; February 5, 2013 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Original post made it sound like Wayne called himself a hero, when I meant that he himself said he was not one.