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Swan Hunter · May 10, 2009, 10:05 PM

The NRA has pranced the same old carry bill for 15-20 years and it has gotten no where! It shows no sign of life. Our sponsor said he thought he had the votes to get it past the house until the lobbyist announced he was killing the bill and told that to about 10 legislators.
If we get subject to home rule here and the courts later prevail (in many years), the carry law would be in the state and this would serve the same purpose to force it into Chicago and the like. However, if we wait until (many years) the court rules hopefully in our favor, then those communities will be fighting tooth and toenail to keep it out of the state just as they are now. Who knows what the court rulings will win for us. They haven't been a silver bullet for Washington DC. They are still all screwed up.

The NRA has no argument. Their first concern was that it would cost them memberships in Chicago. Next, it was because it makes for a patchwork of laws in the state...Which we have now!!! Just check the state police web site. Then, it was because it will make the NRA look weak...Are they looking weak because we don't have a national concealed carry law??? Would they have the rest of the country not have concealed carry because IL doesn't have it? We have been dealing with the NRA on this issue for 6 weeks and quite frankly, they have been rude and dismissive. I feel it is a ego thing.

What they did was wrong. We can't change that. We don't want the NRA harmed. We want them lobbied just as we have to lobby the anti-gunners in Springfield. We sat on this situation hoping they would do the right thing. When they refused, we felt the folks in IL had a right to know.

FYI This bill will only require a simple majority rather than a super majority. That isn't to say that Madigan won't require a super majority but, we won't know for sure until it gets pushed for a vote. Also, if this bill passes and a carry person gets caught in a non-carry area, it is a misdemeanor instead of the current Felony!

Join the NRA and call and nicely ask them to change their position on subject to home rule.

May 10, 2009, 10:05 PM	#8
Swan Hunter Member Join Date: February 26, 2005 Posts: 46	No down side to Subject to home rule. The NRA has pranced the same old carry bill for 15-20 years and it has gotten no where! It shows no sign of life. Our sponsor said he thought he had the votes to get it past the house until the lobbyist announced he was killing the bill and told that to about 10 legislators. If we get subject to home rule here and the courts later prevail (in many years), the carry law would be in the state and this would serve the same purpose to force it into Chicago and the like. However, if we wait until (many years) the court rules hopefully in our favor, then those communities will be fighting tooth and toenail to keep it out of the state just as they are now. Who knows what the court rulings will win for us. They haven't been a silver bullet for Washington DC. They are still all screwed up. The NRA has no argument. Their first concern was that it would cost them memberships in Chicago. Next, it was because it makes for a patchwork of laws in the state...Which we have now!!! Just check the state police web site. Then, it was because it will make the NRA look weak...Are they looking weak because we don't have a national concealed carry law??? Would they have the rest of the country not have concealed carry because IL doesn't have it? We have been dealing with the NRA on this issue for 6 weeks and quite frankly, they have been rude and dismissive. I feel it is a ego thing. What they did was wrong. We can't change that. We don't want the NRA harmed. We want them lobbied just as we have to lobby the anti-gunners in Springfield. We sat on this situation hoping they would do the right thing. When they refused, we felt the folks in IL had a right to know. FYI This bill will only require a simple majority rather than a super majority. That isn't to say that Madigan won't require a super majority but, we won't know for sure until it gets pushed for a vote. Also, if this bill passes and a carry person gets caught in a non-carry area, it is a misdemeanor instead of the current Felony! Join the NRA and call and nicely ask them to change their position on subject to home rule. __________________ If I had known having parents would have been this much trouble, I wouldn't have had any!