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Old January 12, 2013, 12:54 AM   #3
Jim Watson
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first off, its well known in here that the folks at LEE Precision say you do not need to use lube with their carbide dies.

yet the manuals for their dies and presses still say every case needs to be lubed.

You don't HAVE to lube (straight wall) cases for sizing in a carbide die. But a very light application of lube reduces the effort on the handle noticeably. This is a help when loading in large volume. Tapered cases like 9mm P and especially .30 Carbine benefit the most. I give my pistol brass a LIGHT spritz of spray lube.

next thing is this,

if you read their straight walled pistol cartridge die instructions, it seems that you dont need to fully close the ram when you seat or crimp that bullet in. It wierd but if you read it word for word and read the photos, you only close it till you feel resistance.

care to eloborate/ ive always assumed it was close the ram till the shell holder meets die, for every step.

The usual approach is to adjust the die so the operation is completed at the top of the ram stroke. This does not mean the shellholder always meets the die. If you seat and crimp in the same step, you adjust to get the desired results which I find usually leaves a little space. But the ram is all the way up.
There are always exceptions, I had a friend who would seat and crimp with the lockring backed off, one hand on the handle, one hand on the die. He would operate by feel to accomodate mixed brass which was not exactly the same length, thickness, or hardness. But he was a pretty advanced loader.


i admit i dont reload yet but i will be.

Some more books would help in the meanwhile. I learned to load from Lyman, Speer, and the old NRA book.
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