Never used either. Only experience close is 69gr sierras out of my AR.
Are you shooting a bolt action or AR?
This is out of my Sierra manual for .223 in an AR15
IMR-4198 under a 69 grain Sierra HPBT
18.8gr - 2500fps
19.4 - 2600fps
20.0 - 2700fps
20.3 - 2750fps
and then
IMR-4198 under a 60 grain Sierra HP
19.4 -2700
20.1 -2800
20.8 -2900
21.1-2950
I see nothing for 65 grain projectiles.
Consult another source as well and compare the numbers. 4198 is fast from what I hear. Start low and work up, checking brass for pressure signs often as you go.
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