I've had the Hi point 45 acp since june and have dumped 6000 rounds thru it. Cheap, Ugly yes but most amazing thing is it will be dead nuts on at 75 yards. That's right I couldn't believe it either. it's a pistol not a carbine. I've had no issues with the pistol after break in I had 2 extraction failures the first 150 rounds other than that it keeps on hammering them out.