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I much much rather hunt or shoot with young people, I know they have gone thru hunters ed (even a requirement for rifle-licenses over here so even a bigger deal) but the old farts haven't sure most of them are safe but in the few cases where I have been near a.ds and similar it has been the old dudes. and just habits I don't care for, carrying their rifles vertically, the bolt pushed forward and a bunch of stuff
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