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Jody Hudson · July 29, 2000, 09:09 PM

I made some "walls" a couple of feet square out of 2x4s, sheet rock, and fiberglass insulation. I also made some with 1/4" inch panelling on each side and some with panelling over drywall last year for testing.

We checked the longest distance we could have from muzzle to target in the house and it was 14 feet (the room was 20 feet but with back against one wall the muzzle was out 4 feet and the BG was considered to be 2 feet thick if he was against far wall).

We tried all sorts of shot and decided on 7/12 or 8 CHEAP trap and skeet shot in highest velocity available. We found that the shot stayed in the shot cup out to about 15 to 18 feet and that it penetrated the first layer of wall like a slug. The cup was always left outside the first layer or inside the fiberglass. The shot penetrated the second layer of sheet rock but the pellets would only dimple and stick 1/8" or so into the second "wall".

We also "dressed" some big cabbage in various denim jackets, shirts, and leather coats from the thrift shop. We found that out to about 15 feet the trap and skeet load carried the clothing well into the cabbage (about a foot) and then exited the cabbage but most of the time everything stayed inside the back of the clothing if it went all the way through the cabbage.

We decided that for inside use the ONLY thing we were interested in was the $3.99 a box Walmart high speed trap and skeet loads. For outside use we opted for 00 and 000 Buck for out to 40 yards (night use) and slugs for day use as we were able to hold 18" easily at 100 yards.

These were our decisions for protection after several months of various sorts of tests as realistic as we could make them.

One of the neighbors tested a "hog in a jacket" when it came time to "harvest the bacon".

The Walmart trap load was shot into a double layer of denim jacket around the hogs neck at 16 to 20 feet (we measured after the shot). The plastic shot cup was located between the second layer of denim and the tough and hairy hog hide. It was about a 400 lb. hog. The hog dropped instantly.

"Autopsy" showed that the heavy neck spine was severely damaged and the meat was destroyed in the muscular neck for about 12 to 15 inches which was a little past and below the spine.

The spine was seemingly separated due to the hydraulic trauma as the shot went about 2 inches below it.

Nothing came through the other side of the neck which was about 18 to 20 inches thick. Hogs do a lot of digging all day with the nose and thus the neck is pretty solid muscle. and the spine is quite heavy.

We felt this was a good test but had no second hog to repeat the test with. The one hog gave us about 150 - 200 pounds of various kinds of pork meats and we had no need for more.

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July 29, 2000, 09:09 PM	#16
Jody Hudson Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2000 Location: Near Rehoboth Beach Delaware Posts: 1,140	I made some "walls" a couple of feet square out of 2x4s, sheet rock, and fiberglass insulation. I also made some with 1/4" inch panelling on each side and some with panelling over drywall last year for testing. We checked the longest distance we could have from muzzle to target in the house and it was 14 feet (the room was 20 feet but with back against one wall the muzzle was out 4 feet and the BG was considered to be 2 feet thick if he was against far wall). We tried all sorts of shot and decided on 7/12 or 8 CHEAP trap and skeet shot in highest velocity available. We found that the shot stayed in the shot cup out to about 15 to 18 feet and that it penetrated the first layer of wall like a slug. The cup was always left outside the first layer or inside the fiberglass. The shot penetrated the second layer of sheet rock but the pellets would only dimple and stick 1/8" or so into the second "wall". We also "dressed" some big cabbage in various denim jackets, shirts, and leather coats from the thrift shop. We found that out to about 15 feet the trap and skeet load carried the clothing well into the cabbage (about a foot) and then exited the cabbage but most of the time everything stayed inside the back of the clothing if it went all the way through the cabbage. We decided that for inside use the ONLY thing we were interested in was the $3.99 a box Walmart high speed trap and skeet loads. For outside use we opted for 00 and 000 Buck for out to 40 yards (night use) and slugs for day use as we were able to hold 18" easily at 100 yards. These were our decisions for protection after several months of various sorts of tests as realistic as we could make them. One of the neighbors tested a "hog in a jacket" when it came time to "harvest the bacon". The Walmart trap load was shot into a double layer of denim jacket around the hogs neck at 16 to 20 feet (we measured after the shot). The plastic shot cup was located between the second layer of denim and the tough and hairy hog hide. It was about a 400 lb. hog. The hog dropped instantly. "Autopsy" showed that the heavy neck spine was severely damaged and the meat was destroyed in the muscular neck for about 12 to 15 inches which was a little past and below the spine. The spine was seemingly separated due to the hydraulic trauma as the shot went about 2 inches below it. Nothing came through the other side of the neck which was about 18 to 20 inches thick. Hogs do a lot of digging all day with the nose and thus the neck is pretty solid muscle. and the spine is quite heavy. We felt this was a good test but had no second hog to repeat the test with. The one hog gave us about 150 - 200 pounds of various kinds of pork meats and we had no need for more. ------------------ Talk is cheap; Free Speech is NOT. [This message has been edited by Jody Hudson (edited July 29, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Jody Hudson (edited July 29, 2000).]