My 686 (.357 magnum) will shoot one inch or better (five shot) groups at 25 yards using cheap .38SP factory ammo. I can't believe a good SW wheelgun couldn't manage to hold a 4" group from rest at 50 yards with decent ammo. "Good" is the key word there, some of the new SW guns look like they were made by the losers from the Special Olympics and had the triggers tuned by Jerry's Kids.
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