Beware of gimmics in waterfowl loads. It seems its something new and improved every year mostly, designed to seperate you from as much of your hard earned money as possible. I used to shoot nothing but WW Drylocs, then Kent Faststeel, I couldnt find either so I bought the $9.99 Experts at Wally World. It kills them just as dead, for half the price of the premium steel loads.