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I have trouble believing that people deny that people, including themselves, have a right to self defense
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I might be misunderstanding what you're saying but here is the case of Hale DeMar - his defense of his home and his children and what the city of Wilmette did to him afterwards is responsible for the Hale DeMar law in Illinois which precluded towns like Chicago, Wilmette and others from punishing a person with municipal ordinances:
http://reason.com/archives/2005/06/0...n-b/singlepage