Frank. Thanks for the info. My hunting spot is the baseline of very rocky hills (about 50-200 foot tall hills) which give way to very open desert with shrubs. They tend to flush out of hiding from the baseline area running right across my path at about 15-30 yards heading into the desert- I generally have at about a 2 second window to pop 'em with a shotgun. As you stated, not at all easy hunting. Unfortunately the area is only shotgun legal for hunting