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Old January 31, 2013, 01:57 AM   #16
mack59
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The previous bill that was also shall issue and almost passed but was two votes shy of a "super-majority" - meaning that had it passed it would have had to have received enough votes override the Governor's veto to pass in the first place. Now the governor could have vetoed the bill but if the same "super-majority" simply required for initial passage voted for it again it would have overridden his veto.

The super-majority is a parliamentary rule that Majority Speaker Madigan imposes for all pro-gun legislation to stop it from passing as he doesn't have the votes to stop a simple majority in the House or Senate.

With the court ruling so far imposing a deadline to get legislation passed the majority in both the House and Senate are willing to block any CCW law that is not shall issue. They only need a few votes to get shall issue passed and the pressure of the deadline and threat of no law regulating the carrying of firearms has per reports given then the votes to pass shall issue.

The constitutional carry option sounds good superficially, but what would happen in reality is that Chicago and some other liberal bastions in the state would quickly pass under home rule their own laws banning carry completely or if they feared a court ruling against a complete ban pass highly restrictive may issue for their city that essentially was no issue in practice. And the state would be a patchwork of carry laws.

So, the shall issue law will have enough support to win passage with a super-majority, even over the Governor's veto.

We are not talking about or debating the details of the legislation on Illinois gun boards, that the gun controllers read, as we do not want them to glean ideas for sabotaging some parts of this bill or give them ammunition to raise concerns that might help them to try to block good parts of this bill.

Therefore I will not go into some of the potential good things about this bill.
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