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BTW I will be at the amtuer AKC nationals in Iowa in oct if you wish to see the real deal on hunting dogs.
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I see the real deal every day when I train. I also know that taking a dog that has not been collar conditioned and burning the heck out of it is abuse.
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* (Swinging club) Whack! whack! whack! *
Nope, the old nag's still dead .
(Capt Charlie)
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