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Old February 6, 2012, 01:48 AM   #68
Aguila Blanca
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Originally Posted by zxcvbob
Reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime is an awfully low bar, and can easily be manufactured after-the-fact if necessary. "I smelled marahuana smoke coming from the vehicle" (as the officer passes by going 70 mph the other direction), etc.
But ... Reasonable suspicion based on clearly articulable facts (it is NOT "reasonable articulable suspicion" -- it is the underlying facts the officer must be able to clearly articulate, not the suspicion) is not probable cause. Reasonable suspicion ONLY allows the officer to conduct a brief investigatory stop. If his initial investigation does not support the "reasonable suspicion" that a crime has been committed (or is being committed), his justification ends right there and he has no probable cause to further detain the subject of the investigatory stop.

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