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R1145 · September 28, 2005, 01:12 AM

During the car stop, the subject exited the vehicle and refused to comply with the officer's commands. No weapon yet visible.

I probably would have peppered him when he approached me. If I was reasonably sure the vehicle was clear, I'd go hands on, but there appeared to be a passenger in the vehicle, so I'd wait for backup.

When I saw the rifle, I'd move to cover and draw, giving commands ("drop the weapon or I will shoot you"). When he failed to comply, I'd probably shoot him.

His non-compliance and subsequent brandishing of a firearm would, I believe, make me morally and legally justified in my use of lethal force. I don't think I need to wait for him to load his weapon and point it at me.

So what's the "school solution"? What other tactics are possible?

Next month, we're doing force-on-force with Simunitions, and we'll integrate this into the scenario.

September 28, 2005, 01:12 AM	#21
R1145 Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 351	So, scenario time... During the car stop, the subject exited the vehicle and refused to comply with the officer's commands. No weapon yet visible. I probably would have peppered him when he approached me. If I was reasonably sure the vehicle was clear, I'd go hands on, but there appeared to be a passenger in the vehicle, so I'd wait for backup. When I saw the rifle, I'd move to cover and draw, giving commands ("drop the weapon or I will shoot you"). When he failed to comply, I'd probably shoot him. His non-compliance and subsequent brandishing of a firearm would, I believe, make me morally and legally justified in my use of lethal force. I don't think I need to wait for him to load his weapon and point it at me. So what's the "school solution"? What other tactics are possible? Next month, we're doing force-on-force with Simunitions, and we'll integrate this into the scenario.