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Old October 20, 2008, 10:27 AM   #14
Dangerwing
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Join Date: April 9, 2007
Location: South Dakota
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Campus security doesn't work.
Amen! Lets take a look at kill-times vs response times. How long would it take a whack-job to walk into a classroom and kill a few dozen people? A minute? Maybe two? Three tops.

How long would it take for campus security OR the local PD to get there and stop the shooter? Well, someone has to have the nerve to take out their cell phone and dial 911 (or the campus security number) while under fire. Granted, someone in another room might recognize the sound of gunfire and make the call without actually being under fire, but that person would instead have to do the "Hey, are those gunshots...? Naw, couldnt be. Oh wait... I hear screaming too!! Holy $#!+, those ARE gunshots!! etc etc". So lets estimate 30 seconds to actually initiate the call. Now the 911 dispatcher answers. What are the odds that the reporting party is going to know the actual address of the building, the best entrance to use, the correct room number, and be able to rattle all this information off to the dispatcher? Finally the call is dispatched to either the campus security or local PD. The average response time for a code 4 (immediate life threat) in the town I live in (which happens to have 3 colleges and 2 tech schools) is about 3-4 minutes. Thats to get to the scene - the right building. Then figure another minute or two to figure out which room etc etc. The whole process will EASILY take 6-8 minutes on a GOOD day. How many people can a whack-job kill in 6-8 minutes. Especially since the clock doesnt start until the first shot is fired.

Fact is, unless your campus puts an armed guard in every room of every floor of every building, or the students/faculty are armed, the only thing that is going to end a VT type shooting (once it has started) is the whack-job running out of ammo or killing himself.
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