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1. Why do you call the powder "Clays Clays?"
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I've seen lots of newer reloaders using that term because they are confused by the existence of "International Clays", "Universal Clays" and "Clays" powders.
BTW, I'm using 230gr LRN with 4grs of Clays. It's still messy. There's just very little getting around mess when shooting lubed lead. Clays is a great shotshell powder though,so I'll stick with it.