Kodiakbeer wrote:
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You're kidding yourself. Curious about your statement, I went to the Brady site to check PA laws, and find them extremely onerous. It's the "Boil the frog slowly" method where once the laws are in place you just take them as a given. You shouldn't be happy about these restrictions and useless bureaucratic hurdles. This ruling will give citizens in states like PA some help in getting rid of these ridiculous rules.
The fight isn't over. We just got some ammunition to continue the fight.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/scorecard/PA/
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Uh, first of all, you probably should not try to get your info from the Brady Campaign since, a.) there are numerous other sites that are more likely to have accurate info, and b.) they are actually not correct about PA's gun laws. In PA, the Supreme Court has ruled several times that NO LOCAL GUN LAWS can stand, none, absolutely zero, no local laws. Brady gives PA one point for "Some local control of regulations," and hence Brady is wrong. They are also wrong about the State keeping the reocrds of handgun sales. The Uniform Firearms Act specifically prohibits a State firearms registry. And, every FFL license holder will tell you that if the authorities want to trace a firearm, they have to start at the first FFL who sold it and work their way through the system that way. If the State retained records and had a registry, they would not need to go through that process to trace a firearm in PA. Get your info from more reliable sources before re-posting incorrect info on the Internet.
Second, I respectfully submit that Mr. Kodiakbeer is totally and completely wrong about the nature of PA's gun laws. We have onerous gun laws? I must point out that you are quite misinformed, kind sir. We are shall issue for CCW permits. The permits are issued without a class, without tests, without actual shooting, and the only requirement is that the applicant must get the signature of 2 references to vouch for his/her being a decent human being. There is a state-mandated limit of 45 days max for the local officials to approve the application, and permit application denials can be appealed to the Court of Common Pleas in the County of application. The permit is valid statewide, and state premption prevents any local gun regulations. We have the fewest restrcited places to carry of any state in the country. We don't have any silly bar/restaurant restrictions. We allow carry everywhere except elementary and secondary schools, courthouses, and Federal buildings. We don't have to honor those silly "you can't carry in this store" signs. Open carry without a permit is legal everywhere except for the City of Philadelphia, where a permit is required for open or concealed carry. The only thing that is even a little restrictive here is that handguns require paperwork and background check, but private citizens can buy and sell all the rifles off books that they want. no paperwork, no background checks. I do not know of a single state that has more free and less onerous gun laws than PA except for AZ, AK, and VT which do not require any CCW permits. Other than that, every other State that I know of has more restrictive gun laws than PA. Certainly Texas and Florida have FAR more restrictive laws than PA does. For a Florida permit, the applicant has to take a class and be fingerprinted! We do not require our citizens to be fingerprinted for a CCW permit in PA. In Texas, they require a class and require shooting. We don't. Texas can limit your right to carry a gun if the storeowner posts a sign saying that guns are not allowed. In PA, our laws do not allow that.
Mr. Kodiakbeer, you sir need to learn a bit more about PA gun laws before being so critical.