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Old September 25, 2013, 12:49 PM   #47
Brian Pfleuger
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Originally Posted by JASmith
The chart in the note indicates that an 80 grain all-copper bullet is as about as effective as the 130 grain .270 bullet of his day. Nosler partition bullets were just coming into favor towards the end of his active hunting days, so he probably did not include their performance in his judgement.

You will also see that all-copper bullets will not make the .243 Winchester a credible elk caliber.

The 80gr copper bullets are as effective as a 130gr .270 and the 80gr does not make the .243 a "credible elk gun" so the logical conclusion being that a 130gr .270 of JOC's day was not a "credible elk gun".

Hogwash. Plenty of folks use .243Win on elk. Those charts are as valid as "You need 1000 ft/lbs for deer" or "You need 1500 ft/lbs for elk". Numbers picked from somebody's posterior because it puts their Chosen Cartridge in the "Go Zone" and everything lesser is out.
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