[Glenn E. Meyer]

You are saying that they should make the stretch that it was substitution that led to this. OK, then their response should be that they should have banned all handguns and all long arms.

In the research debate about the AWB, the studies clearly found that it didn't reduce any crime indicators. One reason postulated was that there was almost complete substitution of weapons of equally potency but lacking the cosmetic features that the AWB went after. Thus, it is suggested that we do complete bans of military style weapons.

That's how this would go in the UK - I'm sorry but you are demanding that they make arguments that really can't be supported and are put through your filter.

The crime/handgun ban connection is irrelevant to the rampage shooter problem - thus harping on it as a response that they should make to a rampage isn't realistic.

There are better arguments to make against gun bans but putting forward ones that can be easily dismissed isn't going to help.