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Musketeer · October 19, 2005, 08:27 AM

This thread at www.packing.org deals with some of the issues we are discussing.

http://www.packing.org/community/gen...d/?thread=3579

You do not have a target permit. There is nothing in NY State law that specifies a permit for target.

You have a PROPER CAUSE permit, as coverred under NY State Law, that allows you to carry a pistol loaded and concealed upon your person. There are administrative restrictions, with no criminal penalties whatsoever, that are placed on the permit by the issuing authorities. While most intelligent people see this as an abuse of power the courts have so far upheld the ability of issuing authorities to enact rules beyond those established by law as long as there are only administrative consequences (loss of permit). If SCPD wants to make it an administrative restriction that you keep the weapon locked up and unloaded they may and they may also pull your permit if they believe you are not doing so.

Because of the wide say the police have with administrative powers over your permit they may pull it for any reason at all. If they THINK you should not have it for whatever reason you are in trouble. Technically you have recourse under the law but on your own you are in trouble. Better to stay off the radar. After that join SAFE at www.nysafe.org and if trouble begins brewing with the authorities call in the cavalry. SAFE and the NRA made an excellent point that they can do nothing after the problem is done. They need to be involced from as early as possible, like with the confiscations in New Orleans. The head of SAFE provides you with his phone number so that if you find yourself in trouble you can call him.

October 19, 2005, 08:27 AM	#37
Musketeer Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2005 Posts: 3,733	This thread at www.packing.org deals with some of the issues we are discussing. http://www.packing.org/community/gen...d/?thread=3579 You do not have a target permit. There is nothing in NY State law that specifies a permit for target. You have a PROPER CAUSE permit, as coverred under NY State Law, that allows you to carry a pistol loaded and concealed upon your person. There are administrative restrictions, with no criminal penalties whatsoever, that are placed on the permit by the issuing authorities. While most intelligent people see this as an abuse of power the courts have so far upheld the ability of issuing authorities to enact rules beyond those established by law as long as there are only administrative consequences (loss of permit). If SCPD wants to make it an administrative restriction that you keep the weapon locked up and unloaded they may and they may also pull your permit if they believe you are not doing so. Because of the wide say the police have with administrative powers over your permit they may pull it for any reason at all. If they THINK you should not have it for whatever reason you are in trouble. Technically you have recourse under the law but on your own you are in trouble. Better to stay off the radar. After that join SAFE at www.nysafe.org and if trouble begins brewing with the authorities call in the cavalry. SAFE and the NRA made an excellent point that they can do nothing after the problem is done. They need to be involced from as early as possible, like with the confiscations in New Orleans. The head of SAFE provides you with his phone number so that if you find yourself in trouble you can call him.