I don't like the shot cups. I use 6 grains of red dot punch out polyethlene plates with a 45 acp case. One over the powder 1 over the shot. #7 1/2 shot a full 45 acp case full. I press the complete round with a pencil then seal it with Elmers school gel. Works great! Penetrates a soda can completely and groups well. It will kill snake, mice, bats, rats, small lizzards with no problem. The whole thing costs less than 5 cents. Try it out it is better than any shot round I have used.
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