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Old April 26, 2010, 01:25 PM   #27
Brian Pfleuger
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I disagree emphatically with the notion that hand to hand skills take years or decades of training to produce a useful result. Certainly they take years to master....but as little as half an hour of teaching can impart some techniques that can be very useful defensively, and make someone better than they were before by an order of magnitude. I'm not saying it will make someone able to win a fight, but teaching them how to break a grip, basic blocking, a few other techniques like that, can give someone who had no training at hand to hand a fighting chance -- to get away, or to draw or get to a gun, if one is available.
It is certainly true that a few minutes training can make a difference in certain areas. However, the question was "which first". Since being able to break a grip or block a strike has little value without some other skill or tool to back it up, the answer is still the same....

Carrying a gun without any training at all can be and has repeatedly been shown to be effective at preventing crime/injury to the defender.

Small amounts of H2H training may be useful in allowing someone to reach a firearm, but if they're not carrying one then the potential benefit is entirely lost and we are back to a type and level of training that takes years, or decades, to acquire.

Therefore "which first", the answer is "gun".
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