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and the 16ga is a good all around choice. in my opinion i don't think it really matters what size frame it's on.
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Well, it makes a big difference to me. If a 16 gauge is chambered in a 12 gauge frame, I have to ask, "What's the point?" Why would somebody want a shotgun that weighs and handles the same as a 12 gauge but is less versatile in terms of factory available shells that are harder to find and cost more to boot? Imo, the sixteen comes into its own only when it is based on a frame scaled to the gauge or smaller.