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"There are nutters who shoot drive over people, so no one should be allowed to have guns cars"
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Well in the EU, deaths from cars outnumber deaths from legal firearms 5:1, but yeah... no one talks about banning those 4-wheeled death machines!
In fact I was very careful not to argue regarding the US' 2ndA: I was speaking purely from the perspective of EU legislation!! In other words the simple logic of law-abiding people being allowed the possibility to choose a means of effective self-defence, should they want to, even in the absence of a Constitutional right.
Despite that, a whole bunch of pseudo-truths were brought out on parade relating to US mass-shootings (which had to be corrected): proof-positive in my mind that all these arguments were just regurgitations heard in the media.
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When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic.
Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.