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Al Norris · December 5, 2009, 11:21 AM

Are you on the TSA's No Fly list or Selectee list (-- persons who "may" be a "risk" to civil aviation --)? These two lists are secret. You won't know if you are on them, unless you fly. If you are on the No Fly list, you won't be able to fly at all. If you are on the Selectee list, you will always have to check in at the ticket counter and you will receive additional scrutiny. No unique identifying information is kept with these lists. We think. We really don't know. It's a secret who's on the list, how they got there and pretty much how they might get removed from the list.

Let's be frank here. Your name doesn't have to match, precisely, another name. Only be similar.

If the new bill passes, and you are on any of these secret lists, you will be denied your 2A rights. You want to bet that another "secret" list doesn't contain some variation of your name?

How about the NICS check itself? If you are purchasing guns that some bureaucrat thinks is more than any "sane" person should have (they will know this, as the NICS data will also be kept for 10 years)... Wanna bet that another "secret terrorist" list won't be generated?

December 5, 2009, 11:21 AM	#11
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Are you on the TSA's No Fly list or Selectee list (-- persons who "may" be a "risk" to civil aviation --)? These two lists are secret. You won't know if you are on them, unless you fly. If you are on the No Fly list, you won't be able to fly at all. If you are on the Selectee list, you will always have to check in at the ticket counter and you will receive additional scrutiny. No unique identifying information is kept with these lists. We think. We really don't know. It's a secret who's on the list, how they got there and pretty much how they might get removed from the list. Let's be frank here. Your name doesn't have to match, precisely, another name. Only be similar. If the new bill passes, and you are on any of these secret lists, you will be denied your 2A rights. You want to bet that another "secret" list doesn't contain some variation of your name? How about the NICS check itself? If you are purchasing guns that some bureaucrat thinks is more than any "sane" person should have (they will know this, as the NICS data will also be kept for 10 years)... Wanna bet that another "secret terrorist" list won't be generated?