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**Mal H** · March 21, 1999, 01:04 AM

I agree with leapfrog, the Foul Out II works great on lead. But, I have also had excellent results on copper fouling also. For example, last month I was getting poor groups from my Rem 700 270 Win - 6 shots in 1.1" from a "clean" rifle from a BR. This rifle has shot much better in the past so I gave it the usual cleaning followed by several hours with the FO II. I fired 6 with the same batch of ammo (Nos 130 bal tips) and got those 6 in .53". I have had similar results with a Rem 788 in 22-250.

When used after shooting lead, the FO II gets the lead out in big globs. With copper, the action is more subtle and usually takes a long time. But the results, for me anyway, are phenomenal. With both metals it is very important to get any traces of oil out of the bbl with a good degreaser, I use what Outer's suggests - Crud Cutter. If this isn't done, you will get an early indication that the cleaning is done, when, in reality, nothing has been removed from the bbl.

March 21, 1999, 01:04 AM	#12
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	I agree with leapfrog, the Foul Out II works great on lead. But, I have also had excellent results on copper fouling also. For example, last month I was getting poor groups from my Rem 700 270 Win - 6 shots in 1.1" from a "clean" rifle from a BR. This rifle has shot much better in the past so I gave it the usual cleaning followed by several hours with the FO II. I fired 6 with the same batch of ammo (Nos 130 bal tips) and got those 6 in .53". I have had similar results with a Rem 788 in 22-250. When used after shooting lead, the FO II gets the lead out in big globs. With copper, the action is more subtle and usually takes a long time. But the results, for me anyway, are phenomenal. With both metals it is very important to get any traces of oil out of the bbl with a good degreaser, I use what Outer's suggests - Crud Cutter. If this isn't done, you will get an early indication that the cleaning is done, when, in reality, nothing has been removed from the bbl.