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Originally Posted by evil ivan
the following gun is supposed to be ordered by a Croatian count for his foremen. - [see below]
The manufacturing date is believed to be early 1900. - [see below]
info that I have about this particular are as following:
2x 16 gauge/ 65 mm - [Short chambers - see below]
9.3 x 72 mm R - [A common combination gun rifle chambering]
sn. 8183 ?? - [probably]
jk 650 ?? - [most likely the date code - indicating the gun was made in June of 1950 (I could be wrong) ]
1.41 N ?? - [a nitro prookmark]
the barrels have a stamp on them (krup essen) - [see below]
and there is also an Ogris Ferlach marking. - [see below]
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Welcome to TFL !
AFAIK, You have most of what you want.
"krup essen" means the barrels are made of steel from the Krupp steel works in Germany - high quality steel.
"Ferlach" is the 400-odd year old gunmaking area of Austria.
"Orgis" was the maker for your wonderful drilling.
"65mm" means the shot bbls are chambered for the 2-9/16" (fired length) shells - shorter than modern 2-3/4"/70mm shells.
Since your chambers are marked "65mm", that means they were made after the introduction/upgrade of 16ga cambers from that length to 2-3/4" (70mm), about 1926. (the gun is dated June 1950).
Any 16ga barrels made before that time (1926) were simply marked "16", as there was no need to designate the chamber length (no other longer length shells made prior to then).
Without documentation/provenance, there no way to prove the "word-of-mouth" story about the Count.
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