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Pond, James Pond · June 13, 2013, 04:47 AM

Interesting to read the Red as a pest. Assuming we are talking about the same Red.

It (the species I am familiar with) is smaller than the Grey by some margin.

Here are the varieties I am talking about (photo courtesy of Morelle, 2008)

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Indeed in the UK, the native Red has all but been wiped out by the NA Grey that came over with the merchant ships. There are a few enclaves of Red still in Great Britain, but very few and only because of active conservation efforts, providing "Red-sized" feeders etc....
Elsewhere the Greys have killed off or out-competed Reds for food and territory.

Definitely a case of Grey Devil on this side of the Pond.

June 13, 2013, 04:47 AM	#21
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	Interesting to read the Red as a pest. Assuming we are talking about the same Red. It (the species I am familiar with) is smaller than the Grey by some margin. Here are the varieties I am talking about (photo courtesy of Morelle, 2008) : Indeed in the UK, the native Red has all but been wiped out by the NA Grey that came over with the merchant ships. There are a few enclaves of Red still in Great Britain, but very few and only because of active conservation efforts, providing "Red-sized" feeders etc.... Elsewhere the Greys have killed off or out-competed Reds for food and territory. Definitely a case of Grey Devil on this side of the Pond. __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly. Last edited by Pond, James Pond; June 13, 2013 at 07:59 AM.