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Old May 20, 2011, 09:43 AM   #9
Brian Pfleuger
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Originally Posted by Art Eatman
peetzakilla, it's ALL expensive, nowadays. And, it's gonna get worse--even for reloading components. All commodities are increasing in cost to the manufacturers, along with transportation to the retailers.

Typical .308 and .30-'06 loads: 150-grain bullet at around 2,800 to 2,900 ft/sec.

7mm08 load: 140-grain bullet at around 2,800 ft/sec.

For a given weight of rifle, the difference in recoil is only trivially different.
Certainly the costs are all going up. Still, the 30-06 and 243 will probably always have cheaper factory ammo than the 7-08 or 25-06, for identical products.

As to recoil, the 30-06 feels a whole lot worse to me. From the recoil table at Chuck Hawke's, all with 8.0lb rifles, the numbers are energy and velocity:

.25-06 (120 at 3000) 12.5 10.0

7-08 (140 at 2860) 12.6 10.1

30-06 (150 at 2910) 17.6 11.9

30-06 (165 at 2900) 20.1. 12.7


I know and fully appreciate that recoil feel is subjective. A 30-06 feels much, much worse to me than a 7-08 and those numbers indicate a recoil increase of 40% for what is a lighter than "normal" 150gr 30-06 bullet and an increase of 60% for the 165gr, which is nearly identical to the much more typical (IME) 180gr 30-06. Also, the velocity numbers are right at the top of "push" range, IMO, for the 7-08/25-06 and solidly transitioning into the "punch in the shoulder" range for the 30-06.

My personal tolerance for comfortable recoil is right about at the 7-08. I do not shoot a 30-06 for fun. I can shoot a 7-08 quite a lot without being bothered.

As always, YMMV.
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